Latest Bad-Assery from Dassault Aviation - The Falcon 5X

"doodon2whls" (doodon2whls) 10/23/2013 at 13:54 • Filed to: Planelopnik, dassault, falcon 5x

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Beautiful in flight... You might see a high-roller in one soon once they fork over $53M... Fifty. Three. Million. Dollars.

CFD FTW below.

Look at the glass cockpit ! So much leg room, even I could fit in there...

The media gallery is pretty awesome.

eggowarehouseTOO > doodon2whls 10/23/2013 at 13:56

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God, I read about this in AOPA this weekend. Of course it was my girlfriend's favorite.

Of course it was FIFTY-THREE MILLION DOLLARS.

For Sweden > doodon2whls 10/23/2013 at 14:03

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I know they have good reasons to exist, but I'm not a big fan of the armrest stick. But that's because I'm not ambidextrous.

eggowarehouseTOO > For Sweden 10/23/2013 at 14:13

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From what I've read, the 5x cockpit is entirely fly-by-wire. Considering how many freaking wires there must be...

It must be an IT guy's wire-porn underneath all that paneling.

For Sweden > eggowarehouseTOO 10/23/2013 at 14:20

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I understand that, but imagine flying this with your right hand for a few hundred hours, then switching to your left hand.

/in before masturbation joke.

Jayhawk Jake > For Sweden 10/23/2013 at 14:27

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It doesn't matter, ambidextrous-wise. If it was a yoke or center stick, you'd still fly with your left hand from the left seat.

For Sweden > Jayhawk Jake 10/23/2013 at 14:30

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I should probably fly a non-tandem aircraft some time.

Jayhawk Jake > For Sweden 10/23/2013 at 14:38

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Even then...in most you'd be Left hand on stick, right hand on throttle.

What are you flying, J-3 Cubs? I can't think of any other airplanes with throttle on the left, besides maybe some early biplanes.

For Sweden > Jayhawk Jake 10/23/2013 at 14:39

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I wasn't thinking that first-officers would be accustomed to always flying with their right hand on the yoke/stick.

Brian, The Life of > doodon2whls 10/23/2013 at 14:47

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Worth. It.

Why? Because SKYLIGHT :D

ttyymmnn > Jayhawk Jake 10/24/2013 at 00:24

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I remember reading reports about Air France 447 that crashed due to suspected frozen pitot tubes and pilot error leading to a stall. What struck me as interesting about that incident was that one pilot (the FO, I believe) was constantly pulling back on the stick, but the other pilot had no idea what the other was doing because the actions of one stick are not mirrored in the other. If there were a traditional yoke, the pilots would know what each other was doing. Here's me being old fashioned again.

Jayhawk Jake > ttyymmnn 10/24/2013 at 08:42

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I agree with that, there should be feed back to both pilots regardless of it being fly by wire or not.

ttyymmnn > Jayhawk Jake 10/24/2013 at 09:33

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I wonder if feedback is possible. I've gotten to know the cigar buyer at my local liquor store, and he is a former USAF pilot with some ridiculous amount of hours in the F-16. In fact, his unit was the first to receive the type. Anyway, he talked about the stick in the F-16, saying it really doesn't move much at all. It simply measures the amount of force you are applying in a given direction. In the original F-16, the stick did not move at all . But the pilots complained about it, so they put in a little bit of motion. But only a little. So I wonder whether or not feedback would be possible, and I wonder also just how much these side sticks move.

Jayhawk Jake > ttyymmnn 10/24/2013 at 09:38

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Sure, you'd need servos. Think force feedback, like game controllers.

You could also use a series of cables and pulleys behind the panel (or under the floor), but that's unlikely as it would take up far too much space.